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BladeLakem · Great Tree Member Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 514

ION 08 (an online gaming industry conference) has been going on lately and there is a lot of talk about what MMOs need to do. Some interesting stuff:

A quote from the summary of "Virtual Worlds for the Masses":
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Moiety Jean · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject:

Makes sense to me. I think Uru needed user-created content badly, because we're all greedy for it and Cyan can't possibly keep up... but without the central world that Cyan creates for us, we have no context for our own creations and everything feels disjointed and unsatisfying.
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Eleri · Great Tree Member Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 819

I think Ron (Randomos) was in on that conference. No, wait, that was a different one I think. I dunno!

Uru should never have been marketed as an MMO, really.
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BladeLakem · Great Tree Member Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 514

Well, I think it could have been. With a different philosophy attached.

Cyan used an ACID philosophy, it seems. If they'd taken the suggestion of embracing the web and the 2.0 mindset (which Uru as a concept and a community was perfectly set up for), then they could have been the genre leader that the fans expected. They wanted to make a world, and focused on making an online video game. If they'd focused on making a world that just happened to intersect with their video game, it would have had a better chance.

Interestingly enough, I think that conference was just a few blocks from where I work...
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Lord Chaos · Great Tree Member Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 208

From the summary of "What can game developers learn from Web 2.0?

Cycreim · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject:

Haha yeah well that's pretty close to what a lot of people in the community have been saying since Uru went belly up again. And it sounds like there's yet a fair chance that Uru might go BASE, so I'm staying cautiously optimistic. Smile

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CuzinJohn · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject:

Moiety Jean · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject:

::fondly throws tomatoes at Cuzin::
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CuzinJohn · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject:

Are you fond of the tomatoes? or just fond of throwing them at me??

::duck::

NYEAH! Missed me! Betcha can't hit m::SPLAT::
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Moiety Jean · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject:

::smugly hefts tomato in one hand::
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CuzinJohn · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject:

I ran away and cowered in fear, awestruck by your deft use of tomatoes...

...and of adverbs.

This concludes our derailment of this thread.
We now return you to the topic already in progress.
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Cycreim · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:18 am Post subject:

Talks continue, and it sounds like Rand, at least, is being very open-minded about the power they hand over to explorers.
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Moiety Jean · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:28 am Post subject:

I read that! It's encouraging to at least know what Cyan would like, whether or not they are able to do as they like.
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janaba1 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:59 am Post subject:

Oh, that sounds really encouraging, indeed!!! So, the worst that
could happen, as far as I've understood, would be another two years
of waiting for Uru's return... and meanwhile, there'll be quite an amount
of new ages in development and completion...

That's absolutely great!!! And Cyan is given more than enough time
for further engine and ages/storyline developments etc... That'd be
ok with me, I'm not in a hurry... Very Happy

What I love about Cyan/the Millers is, that over the course of all those
years, all those ups and downs, they remained true to themselves...
Whenever I ponder about that I'm very much impressed about their
courage, their perseverance and their loyalty to us and their visions...
Kudos! Kudos! Kudos, Cyan!!!

Really, I mean, what do all the others do? They provide the people
with whatever they want, whatever it might be... They're only concerned
(not all, but many Wink

) about numbers, scores, dollars/money etc...

Our Cyanists could easily change their course in every moment, telling
us "sorry, friends, thanks for your loyalty and your dedication in all of
those years... was a great time and experience, but we have to move
on and earn some more money... So, please don't be disappointed about
some changes to Uru, that many of you won't agree with, means a
significant alteration in the course and the structure of the storyline and
the whole presentation of the game with more action elements and also
violent elements involved etc...etc... "

But they don't. They remain true to themselves and their visions and us...
Thanks, guys... I love you... Keep the faith... We'll win in the end!!! Very Happy