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Durin Mephit · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: PSA: Don't be a jerk.

Today (December 21), Dr. Kodama made another visit to Ae'gura. I was not present, but a fellow explorer posted a transcript, and if his notes are an accurate portrayal of the event, then I am very annoyed at some explorers' behavior towards the DRC.

I was sharing my opinion with another explorer, Tweek, and he had this to say (which I fully agree with):

Gadren · Great Tree Member Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 218

I have to agree with you, Marten. I read that transcript and found it frustrating, especially considering the extra pressure the DRC must be having with the Bahro situation and the influx of explorers. We need to remember the Golden Rule, not an eye for an eye.

On a slightly related note, I'm thinking that we need to really make sure to ask good, unique questions of the DRC. EVERYONE is asking "when will things be open?" If it's been asked a million times and the answer is "we don't know" or "near future," we're probably not going to get a different response the million-and-first time. Let's try to make the best use of these opportunities and by doing so open up better paths of communication.

Erik · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject:

I was there... and I really got a bit annoyed...

30 times: "When will the barriers go away?? Rolling Eyes

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They have only been there for a day yet!! After what happened Tuesday, the DRC has to investigate the place. If they didn't do that... that would mean they didn't care...

6 times: "Do you know where Dr. Watson is??"

I had a long tallk about this in the City a few hours ago... I think many people are "nagging" now.

I found this very frustrating...

Gadren · Great Tree Member Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 218

If people could point me to where the chatlogs are, I'm tihnking about compiling them into a FAQ so people know what's been asked.

Durin Mephit · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject:

Uherrerhrrrum....

I gave the link in my first message above. Smile

But here it is, naked:

http://www.urulive.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4401
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Cycreim · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject:

Oh thank god, I'm not the only person for whom reading that log was like listening to nails scrape across a chalkboard.

If Kodama is going to answer a few questions... why not ask a few questions he might know the answer to? The restoration phases of different Ages, since the DRC website hasn't updated with that information yet?

Bah. "Do you feel like Darth Vader". What a waste of everyone's time.
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Rils · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject:

well, yeah, and it's not just stoopid questions, it the downright insulting ones! "are u useless"?!?! for the love....

I gotta give Kodama credit. If that had been me people were talking to like that, someone would have got dropped...
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Malakh · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject:

I agree that there are some very insulting questions and assanine ones as well, but I also am not terribly surprised concidering the large number of new explorers that are appearing in the cavern.

So I think we are seeing a combonation of new explorers with lots of questions and not knowing or understanding the culture that is present in the cavern, combined with a select number of exsisting explorers demonstrating a clearly 'bad additude' toward the DRC. Each of which are probably feeding into one another.
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Tweek · Friend of The Great Tree Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 134

DJC is working on a Vault of Transcripts, we have logs from the last couple of days of all the meetings that went on and we are in the process of filling up the backlog from past transcripts.

You can check them out here, hopefully people will find it helpful/useful: Transcripts
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Mystlander · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject:

When it comes to choosing sides, I think it is a matter of compromise... The DRC are concerned with the safety of the explorers, and restoring D'ni technology that will aid us in our explorations (e.g.: repairing the KI lattice, calibrating the Great Zero, etc.). The Great Tree members are concerned with the "spiritual" rehabilitation of D'ni, in order to prevent history from repeating itself (e.g.: the abuse of, or enslaving the Bahro)...

I don't mind helping the DRC with beneficial technological restoration efforts, in fact, I look forward to the challenge. In return, I hope that the DRC will freely share their knowledge and provide us with free access to new ages as they are discovered. If they don't, I'm certain that the Bahro will... Wink

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BladeLakem · Great Tree Member Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 514

Saxy · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:30 am Post subject:

It makes me sad to see such asinine responses to Dr. K. He's been so patient with the explorers this far. I give him kudos; I think I would've kicked everyone down the Great Stairs if I were him.

I know you guys know this already because you're great like that, but to say it anyways, I think it's important that we representing the Great Tree give the DRC the same respect they've been showing the explorers as of late. Like Marten said, if they do anything to provoke us, of course we'll maturely disagree with them and take appropriate measures, but if the explorers continue to treat the DRC like this, I wouldn't be surprised to see a knee-jerk reaction.

In fact, I think it'd be great if we brainstorm a list of interesting, thought-provoking, timely, and answerable questions for the DRC should we ever bump into them in the cavern.
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Cycreim · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:41 am Post subject:

I maintain that we should invite Kodama and the rest of the DRC to the 'hood and have some sort of party. Nothing too crazy, just to show we appreciate what they're doing.
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Ashtar · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:40 am Post subject:

Well I probably didn't help matters much by my comment on Wednesday about "Typical DRC arrogance", and like I told Marten, I'll keep things toned down a bit. But we have to remember, this is new for a lot of us. Usually I'm not around during the day when most such events occur. So it will take some time to feel things out and get use to spontaneous DRC visits, for everyone. To learn what questions should be asked, how to keep things in perspective, and get the most out of those encounters. But I'm not going to sugar coat everything either and kiss the feet of the DRC Smile

I don't think they really expect it. I have no doubt that Kodama expected some kind of response with his statement: "We are in charge now" Smile

My response had to do with personal experiences with those in authority that abuse their power in RL.

Gadren's posting on the DRC forum are some good guidelines to follow and I'll keep those in mind the next time I'm in the cavern with the DRC:

http://www.drcsite.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1464

Ashtar
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