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dcos Great Tree Member


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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: Goings on In Cavern |
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I have noticed that lately no one has really been discussing the Ages being released. I mean take for example the sudden release of Tetsonot in its obviously compromised state. What is the DRC up to? Is this Cate's influence? Is it really safe? I know we push for more Ages faster but from what I hear the least they could have done in Tetsonot is put up a lamp! |
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Erik Great Tree Member


Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 1121 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Hi dcos!
Here on my blog are some of my thought about Tetsonot, just wrote post. I really don't think the pod is safe. For example, the pod is still leaking! And we all know what happens when something is leaking, the water level in the pod will rise...
According to Nick it's safe, but I find it to be disappoint that nobody asked further because I really can't see anything that is safe there.
We know the DRC has limited resources and time, so why did they even start restoration this pod? I would rather have something cool than a broken, sunken(?) pod like this...  |
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BladeLakem Great Tree Member


Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 514
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: |
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One someone else's blog, they point out that people generally feel that if they had a Relto book, they are automatically safe.
The DRC seems to agree. I ran into a woman named Echo last night in the city. She seemed a little... unhinged. I brought it up to a ResEng, and his response was "Well, as long as she has a Relto book, she'll be just fine."
It seems like the DRC is depending on Relto books as the primary security measure nowadays. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not. _________________ .yahvo kehnehn taigahntahv .taigahntahv bihv
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Durin Mephit Great Tree Officer


Joined: 29 Jan 2004 Posts: 3119 Location: Tigard, OR
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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There is some discussion about this at DRCsite (as you know Erik; I saw your post there)... just not a lot.
http://forums.drcsite.org/viewtopic.php?t=2049 _________________ Durin Mephit * Member of Guild of Messengers - Unless otherwise stated, opinions are mine only and not Guild endorsed.
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Quaxo Great Tree Member


Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 184 Location: Tebryna
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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To be honest, full reliance on Relto books has me worried. Let's face it, not everyone has the presence of mind to open a book and slap their thigh as soon as they get in trouble. I know far too many flighty people to think that the Relto book is going to work well as a safety measure for everyone.
As someone said on the DRC boards - you can't Relto when you're unconscious, either. This is also a huge problem. What if you misstep in Tetsonot - slip on the ladder or something - and fall into the more than two inches of water, unconscious? At the very least, I think the DRC should be cautioning explorers to use a buddy system or something.
Perhaps an emergency function on our KIs would be beneficial? If heartrate slips below a certain level, those in the Healers group would be notified? Just a thought. _________________ Beware the butterflies of DOOOOM! and exposition
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Cycreim Great Tree Officer


Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 1274 Location: Toronto, ON
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares if it's safe? It's released. This is the type of thing we've been asking for all along, hasn't it?
Tetsonot seems relatively sturdy, considering it's been sitting there underwater for over 200 years. Seriously, I've been in way more dangerous places and remained unscathed.  _________________ KI: 34353 |
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Ian [Atrus] Explorer


Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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As someone pointed out in another forum, the pod can't really be leaking that bad, as the water level hasn't raised noticeably since the opening of the Age. Since there seems to be a constant streamlet of water running to the lower level, I assume there must also be some pumping mechanism that, if not getting rid of the extra water, at least keeps the pod in check for the time being.
Also, either the pod is fixed in position (either by being anchored or by sitting on the sea floor) or it must have some stabilizer that keeps it always in place even when working just with emergency power. This because the linking book links us every time to the same spot, nor above nor below, nor to the left nor to the right: if the pod was free to move, the extra weight and the currents would move it around and we'd be happily linking in the middle of the ocean.
So, it's not tidy and clean, but that doesn't mean it's more unsafe than, say, the lava pits in Gira or the cracks in Gahreesen. _________________ "We are the kolbitar, the coal-eaters; we sit by the fire in winter and tell stories of a younger world." |
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Cycreim Great Tree Officer


Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 1274 Location: Toronto, ON
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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It's probably tethered to the ocean floor and the buoyancy of the pod is keeping the guy-wires taut. _________________ KI: 34353 |
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Erik Great Tree Member


Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 1121 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: |
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But still... you can hardly call this pod restored. I would rather have had the DRC working on Minkata or Er'cana instead of this pod. Besides the portal, there's not much of interest... |
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Rils Great Tree Member

Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 815 Location: Screw Ballard, I live in Edmonds now
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: |
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True, it's not "restored", but it's safe, and it seems to have a sort of purpose in the "Portal" Journey, so why not release it? I don't think people will be spending much time there anyways. At least *I* won't be, it gives me the jibblies...  _________________
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Ian [Atrus] Explorer


Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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It's not fully restored, but who's to say it's not restored at all? Maybe they spent the first six months there wearing a Maintainers's suit and oxigen tank until they figured out how to get rid of the excess water.  _________________ "We are the kolbitar, the coal-eaters; we sit by the fire in winter and tell stories of a younger world." |
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